[Makers] A Family Friendly Hackerspace

Tracey Smith-Jones tracey.smithjones at gmail.com
Wed Jan 11 11:23:45 EST 2012

Accordingly, the group would actually be U16, not U18, since the rules and
regulations do not require people over the age of 16 to be accompanied by a
supervising adult. Also, the rules state that the child's attendance does
not attract a fee - only the supervising adult...but is this due to the
child just hanging out with their MHV member parent?...

If the child him or herself is a member and not the adult (only in a
supervisory capacity), a fee would still apply (although this is not
clearly stipulated in the rules and regulations).  As it  currently stands,
U16's can only be members via their parent/guardian signing up on their
behalf, even though they themselves may never intend to make, hack or void
anything!  Do we use the loop-hole in membership rules, or create a new one
to facilitate U16 members? Being under 16 they would have to get
parental/guardian's written/signed consent anyway. There may need to be
additional health and safety restrictions/limitations on tools/facility
usage also, although with parents/guardians and full members in attendance,
one would expect that common sense re. this would prevail.

Thoughts on this?

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Angus Gratton <gus at projectgus.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:09:48 +1100
> Adam Thomas <adam.lloyd at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Our insurance docs are here
> > http://www.makehackvoid.com/community/tenancy-insurance-documents (yes
> > they are expiring soon, yes we're on top of that. :) ). I don't think
> > there's anything in there which would stop us from having U18s in the
> > space working on stuff but it's not a question I remembered having in
> > my head when I last read them.
> >
> > Can an eager someone read through them and let everyone know what they
> > find? If you find that not all the right docs are there let me know
> > and I can dig some more.
> >
> AFAIK, I think it's all fine as long as under-16s come with a parent or
> responsible adult who stays and takes responsibility for them (same as
> we have in our Membership info.[1])
> If we were going to do some kind of "drop your kids off at MHV" type
> thing then that's pretty different to what we told our insurance
> company we do, so we'd need to call them and talk to them then I think.
> There may be other legal gotchas there as well ("working with kids"
> checks, etc.)
> But, in my understanding, what's being talked about here (parents &
> kids together, when the parent is a member) is OK.
> - Angus
> PS I got the latest copies of the liability insurance docs on Monday,
> so I'll update the above-quoted page with them tonight. I think the
> policy is identical, though.
> [1] http://www.makehackvoid.com/community/membership (the bit about kids
> is down the bottom.)
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